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  • 【键盘侠】76人顶薪续约本西|即便没有投射也值这个价?

    2019-07-04 来源:五星体育

    [Wojnarowski] Philadelphia has offered a five-year, $168M maximum contract extension to Ben Simmons and the Sixers and agent Rich Paul are expected to work through the details toward an eventual agreement, league sources tell ESPN.

    据NBA名记Woj报道,76人向球队后卫本-西蒙斯提供一份5年1.68亿的提前续约合同。后续,76人方面会和西蒙斯的经纪人里奇-保罗就合同的一些细节方面做出探讨。

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    [–]Rockets Watson4Harden13 129 points 20 hours ago

    DAMN

    火箭球迷:我擦

    [–]76ers banjosbadfurday 356 points 20 hours ago*

    All that for no jumper wtf

    76人球迷:一个没有跳投的人给这么多,搞毛啊

    [–]76ers TheArsenal7 115 points 20 hours ago

    Here come the shooting jokes

    76人球迷:又要拿没投篮开玩笑了

    [–]Lakers moserftbl88 21 points 20 hours ago

    It's fair though. Your starting PG is making max money and is a non threat from any significant range and hasn't shown any improvement as of yet.

    湖人球迷:很正常啊。你的首发控卫拿着顶薪,却没有任何的外线威胁,而且至今仍未表露出一点进步的迹象。

    [–]Kings Ask_Me_If_I_Suck 49 points 20 hours ago

    Jokes are often based in reality. Simmons has no jumper and getting maxed like that is honestly surprising unless there's some promises he works on it.

    国王球迷:玩笑一般是基于事实的。西蒙斯没有跳投却拿着那么高的顶薪,属实让人惊讶,除非他能加强投篮的练习。

    [–]Kings Ask_Me_If_I_Suck 205 points 20 hours ago

    That is a lot of money for a man that literally cannot shoot outside 8 feet.

    国王球迷:对于一个在8英尺开外没有篮子的球员来说,这钱真是很多了。

    [–][OKC] Russell Westbrook Anti_Matur 267 points 20 hours ago

    I can't be the only one that thinks Ben is deserving of a 5 year/168m

    雷霆球迷:觉得西蒙斯配得上5年1.68亿的人应该不止我一个吧

    [–]76ers TTP2521 51 points 20 hours ago

    You aren’t but there are some people that act like Ben doesn’t deserve it because he can’t shoot.

    76人球迷:你不是一个人,可是有些人偏就因为他没投射就觉得他不值这个价

    [–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 66 points 20 hours ago

    Tbf that the most important skill in todays NBA

    猛龙球迷:有一说一,投篮是如今NBA最重要的技能。

    [–]76ers KimJongTrill44 43 points 20 hours ago

    The guy is still on a rookie deal and is already an all star. You max a guy like that every time.

    76人球迷:他还在新秀合同期就已经进入全明星了,换谁都会和这种球员顶薪续约。

    [–][OKC] Russell Westbrook Anti_Matur 55 points 20 hours ago

    IMO, Ben doesn't have a jump shot yet but he's worth every penny

    雷霆球迷:我觉得吧,本西的确没有投射,可是他应该拿这个钱。

    [–]SophomoreOfTheYear 125 points 19 hours ago

    Westbrook flair

    原来是威少球迷啊

    [–]Cavaliers HK4sixteen 9 points 18 hours ago

    Westbrook's an infinitely better shooter

    骑士球迷:人家威少的篮子可比本西好太多了。

    [–]Untchj 271 points 20 hours ago

    These comments tho. Safe to say we’re spoiled by great players, possibly by Lebron. Everybody can’t be the perfect player people .

    He’s already established that his floor is 17, 8, and 8.

    有些评论简直了。坦白讲,我们或许被詹姆斯这类顶级球员都惯坏了。没有哪个球员是完美的。

    西蒙斯已经可以贡献17+8+8的输出了。

    [–]76ers ZigZagZoo 203 points 19 hours ago

    With great defense. These people are insane.

    76人球迷:还有顶尖的防守呢,有些人就是丧心病狂。

    [–]Pacers Amanahatpa23 47 points 19 hours ago

    Exactly

    步行者球迷:就是!

    [–][DAL] Rodrigue Beaubois pm_me_your_trees_plz 14 points 19 hours ago*

    17,8,8 but gets marginalized on the highest stage and severely limits roster-building options. It’s not insane to question a max extension for a guy who’s worst in the league at the most important skill in the league right now.

    Like if Ben could shoot 3’s even at a clip like Draymond he’d be beyond question. But he’s a couple levels below that.

    独行侠球迷:他的数据确实可以,可是在NBA这个最高舞台上他的作用被弱化了,而且这还极大地限制了球队阵容的构建。就拿球员安身立命的最重要的技能来说,现在的他是联盟最菜的,质疑他拿顶薪的合理性可不是丧心病狂。

    哪怕他能像追梦那样投三分,也不会有任何质疑啊。可是他比这还低了几个档次。

    [–]Lakers k4f123 15 points 14 hours ago

    But he’s a couple levels below that.

    A couple levels below that is Lonzo Ball territory. This is something else altogether.

    湖人球迷:“可是他比这还低了几个档次。”真要低几个档次就是鲍尔这种球员了,楼上的扯远了啊。

    [–]76ers TTP2521 334 points 20 hours ago

    Let’s shit on a guy who put up 17/8/8 and just completed his SECOND year in the league. Don’t pretend like you wouldn’t want Simmons on your team if he offered to come there on the max

    76人球迷:一个刚打完个人在联盟第二个赛季的球员场均17+8+8,你们就喷呗。搞得像你们的主队要是能顶薪得到他,你会不想要一样。

    [–]Timberwolves SadBoy02 267 points 20 hours ago

    Lets also just forget how good of a defender he is. People act like he’s worthless because he doesn’t have a jumper

    森林狼球迷:你们就继续选择性无视他的防守呗。有些人就因为他没有跳投就觉得他不中用。

    [–]Lakers RiddickRises 42 points 18 hours ago

    It’s banter. Kid is gifted

    湖人球迷:大伙儿说笑呢,那小孩儿还是很有天赋的。

    [–][CLE] LeBron James mr_antman85 40 points 18 hours ago

    People act like he’s worthless because he doesn’t have a jumper

    Literally no one is saying that. Why is criticizing a player automatically makes it where it's discounting him in general? Him not having a jumpshot is a huge liability. It is a legitimate criticism. Yes, he can defend multiple positions, make crazy plays as a PG but teams can legit gameplan for him and make him inefficient on the offensive end. He needs a jumpshot, that's just fact. He won't reach his full potential without one.

    骑士球迷:“有些人就因为他没有跳投就觉得他不中用”

    其实真没人这么说。为啥大家对某个球员的批评会被自动解读成对他的贬低呢?他没有跳投确实是个巨大的负担啊。这就是很合理的批评啊。是的,他可以防很多个位置,能够组织出炫目的进攻,可是对手可以对他进行针对性部署啊,可以让他在进攻端很低能啊。西蒙斯需要跳投,这就是事实。没有篮子的他是无法兑现全部天赋的。

    [–][TOR] Kawhi Leonards tephcurrytohouston 60 points 20 hours ago*

    Literally nobody thinks he’s worthless. Everyone knows that he’s a good player even with his total inability to shoot.

    It’s not insane to not want to max a fucking point guard who literally cannot shoot. It has cost the Sixers a lot in the playoffs and he’s not a good fit with their other franchise cornerstone. How many times these playoffs was Embiid forced to hang around the perimeter? How many times has he clogged up the lane for his teammates?

    Do you wanna pay $30 million to a dude who’s so critically flawed? I’d probably max him as well since you can’t just let him walk, but I wouldn’t be happy about it.

    猛龙球迷:还真没人觉得西蒙斯不中用。即便他完全没有篮子,也没人否认他的优秀。

    不希望一个基本没有投射的特么的控卫球员拿顶薪,这也不算荒唐吧。他投射能力的缺失已经让76人在季后赛付出了很大的代价,而且他和队里其他的头牌并不是很搭。恩比德在季后赛里有多少次不得不飘到外线去?西蒙斯有多少次挤占了队友的空间?

    你会想给这么一个有着重大缺陷的球员3000万年薪吗?或许我会给他顶薪,毕竟你不能让他走啊,可是我不会开心的。

    [–]igotzquestions 24 points 18 hours ago

    Truly. I think nearly every team in the league would be after him if he was on the open market, but pointing out that the dude functionally can't shoot the ball at an NBA level is more than a valid criticism and completely fair when given a max contract.

    确实。我觉得如果他进入了市场,几乎每个队都会追求他。可是指出他这个NBA球员在投篮上的无能是很靠谱的批评,完全合理的,毕竟你要给他顶薪啊。

    [–]Timberwolves SadBoy02 38 points 19 hours ago

    Since Murray and KP both got maxed, Simmons more than deserves his max contract.

    森林狼球迷:连穆雷和波尔津吉斯都拿顶薪了,比起他俩,西蒙斯完全配得上他的顶薪合同。

    [–][BKN] Rondae Hollis-Jefferson thehardcoreotter 20 points 19 hours ago

    I mean Murray getting maxed at all and KP getting maxed after missing a full season were both highly questionable decisions, but you’re right. If those two and Middleton are receiving max contracts and you’re a guy at Simmons level then your market has been set.

    篮网球迷:我认为呢,穆雷拿顶薪,波尔津吉斯报销一个赛季之后还能拿顶薪,这两个决定都是很成问题的,可是楼上说的没错。如果这俩人和米德尔顿都拿了顶薪,你是西蒙斯这种级别的球员的话,那价格就在那儿了。

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    [–]louspit 2229 points 7 hours ago

    Philly giving out maxes left and right

    费城见人就给顶薪啊。

    [–]76ers i_love_wawa_ 797 points 7 hours ago

    u get a max! u get a max!

    EVERY

    BODY

    GETS A MAXXXXXX!!!!!!

    76人球迷:你一个顶薪!他一个顶薪!

    大家都有顶薪拿!

    [–][SAS] Dejounte Murray death210902[ ] 9 points 7 hours ago

    then where tf is my max

    马刺球迷:那特么我的顶薪呢?

    [–]Trail Blazers Highkeyhi 24 points 7 hours ago

    Hi, i'm max.

    开拓者球迷:你好,我叫“顶薪”

    [–]76ers DragonBank 11 points 6 hours ago

    Who tf just farted?

    76人球迷:谁特么放屁了?

    [–]Lakers FigityFuck 35 points 7 hours ago

    Jimmy Butler next

    湖人球迷:他们接下来给巴特勒顶薪

    [–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 146 points 7 hours ago

    Nah fam he wants to "win".

    猛龙球迷:不会了老铁,人巴特勒想要“成就”呢

    [–]76ers kekehippo 12 points 6 hours ago

    Only thing winning he's doing is in his bank account. But that'd be a given.

    76人球迷:他唯一的成就在他的银行账户里。不过这也是难免的。

    [–]Bulls roseyrosey 11 points 4 hours ago

    All I want is a Philly vs Miami first-round series.

    公牛球迷:我就想看到76人和热火在季后赛首轮碰面。

    [–]Suns tcrain99 1370 points 7 hours ago

    How the hell can they afford to pay Harris, Embiid, Horfrod, and Simmons this much?

    太阳球迷:这特么76人咋可以给哈里斯、恩比德、霍福德和西蒙斯这么多钱啊?

    [–]Jazz leevo 267 points 19 hours ago

    Bird rights dawg. Owners just need to be willing to pay the luxury tax

    It’s how the dubs did it, they drafted green, Klay and Steph. Then added KD

    爵士球迷:鸟权了解一下。老板也得乐意付那些奢侈税才行。

    当初勇士就是这么操作的,选的格林、克莱和库里,然后再加上阿杜。

    [–]Nuggets Natedogg213 74 points 17 hours ago

    I feel like I need to take a week long course just to understand WTF is going on with the NBA’s salary cap mechanics.

    掘金球迷:我觉得我需要上一周的课才能明白NBA这个薪资帽机制是特么咋回事。

    [–]76ers BabaBrody 1184 points 20 hours ago

    Richardson is on a team friendly contract. Our bench is going to be young and/or low range vets. Going all in on the Tall Boys to win a championship in the next 3 years.

    76人球迷:约什-理查德森现在的合同算是友情价。我们的板凳会很年轻,或者是很多末流老将。今后三年等于是为了冠军梭哈了这些大个子。

    [–]NBA _Lebron 908 points 19 hours ago

    hoarding all the big men in the east so simmons can get easy layups in the playoffs

    把东部的大个子都收集起来,这样就能让西蒙斯在季后赛里轻松杀内线了。

    [–]76ers SJCitizen 84 points 16 hours ago

    Just wait till we get a healthy Markelle

    76人球迷:你们就等着我们迎回一个健康的富尔茨吧

    [–][PHI] Ben Simmons OkMountain 59 points 16 hours ago

    That and when Dario comes over the 76ers will be unstoppable

    76人球迷:他,再加上沙里奇重新来过,我们会不可阻挡的!

    [–]76ers BabaBrody 23 points 15 hours ago

    Adam Silver is working overtime to block Fultz, Dario, RoCo, and Shamet from teaming up because it’s just too much firepower for one team.

    76人球迷:为了阻止富尔茨、沙里奇、考文顿和沙梅特组队,萧华正在加班加点呢,因为这帮球员在一个队的话,那威力太大了。

    [–]Raptors deleted-user 45 points 18 hours ago

    Their only weakness: lateral mobility.

    猛龙球迷:76人唯一的弱点:横向移动。

    [–]76ers H0u53r 10 points 13 hours ago

    Eh Simmons Embiid and Al are some of the best defenders in the lg I wouldn’t say that’s their weakness lol. More like shooting. All isn’t mobile like he used to be but makes up for it with smarts and positioning and he can shoot.

    76人球迷:呃,西蒙斯、恩比德和霍福德都是联盟顶尖防守人,我可不觉得这是他们的弱点,哈哈哈。弱点更应该是投射。霍福德的移动确实不如以前了,可是他可以用球商和选位弥补,而且他还有篮子。

    [–]76ers heyeaglefn 24 points 6 hours ago

    Technically Horford and Tobias didn't get a max, right?

    76人球迷:严格来说,霍福德和哈里斯并没有拿到顶薪,对不?

    [–][PHI] Eric Snow TheFakeTheoRatliff 17 points 6 hours ago

    Tobi got pretty much as close to a max as you can get

    76人球迷:哈里斯那个合同基本和顶薪差不多了。

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    [–]kobmug 471 points 20 hours ago

    2M short of what Murray got.

    西蒙斯比穆雷还少了200万啊

    [–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 85 points 20 hours ago

    The 2mill gap might be a 3pt incentive.

    猛龙球迷:那200万的差距或许是3分激励。

    [–]Timberwolves TTVW 71 points 20 hours ago

    They’ll both get the same deal if it’s a max. They’ll get 25% of next years’ salary cap.

    森林狼球迷:如果是顶薪的话,他俩拿的钱是一样的。他们都能拿到下赛季薪资帽的25%。

    [–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki Mysteriagant 16 points 19 hours ago

    I genuinely don't understand why he's worth that much. Wtf is Murray super great at?

    独行侠球迷:我是真不明白,为啥穆雷值那么多钱。特么穆雷哪里超级厉害了?

    [–]Grizzlies 37sms 28 points 19 hours ago

    They're not paying for what murray is right now, they're paying for what they believe he will be

    灰熊球迷:掘金不是为了穆雷的现在花钱,他们是为了他们穆雷的未来花钱。

    [–]Spurs gbeezy09 317 points 20 hours ago

    LAYUPMAN GETS PAID

    马刺球迷:上篮高手有钱拿!

    [–]76ers That_Guy_JR 97 points 19 hours ago

    Layupman gets blocked at the rim way too often. Layupman should be dunkman.

    76人球迷:上篮高手也会经常被帽,上篮高手应该做扣将!

    [–]Trail Blazers Dgeneratte 1465 points 7 hours ago*

    r/nba future top post will be Simmons making a 3 in a game.

    Edit: The dream scenario is for it to be a buzzer beater 3 to win a game but he doesn't get it off in time. I think I would die laughing that day.

    开拓者球迷:今后的第一热帖将会是西蒙斯在比赛中投进三分。

    编辑:最理想的情况是,那是个压哨的三分绝杀,可是他超时了。我会狂笑一整天。

    [–]Pacers TURRRDS 238 points 7 hours ago

    It will break Reddit

    步行者球迷:那服务器会崩的。

    [–][GSW] JaVale McGee a shwinr136 734 points 7 hours ago

    A while back a post was titled "Simmons hits a 3" and it was motherfucking Jonathan Simmons lmao, it got so many golds

    勇士球迷:之前有个帖子标题是“西蒙斯投进三分”,结果是特么乔纳森-西蒙斯,还有很多高亮。

    [–]Warriors TheEndIsWhereWeBegin 470 points 6 hours ago

    Pretty sure the title was "Simmons hits his first three as a sixer" lol.

    勇士球迷:清楚记得那个标题是“西蒙斯76人生涯首个三分”,哈哈哈

    [–]76ers embarrassed420 52 points 19 hours ago

    Damn you man, I saw your post when I was on the clock at work and I got chewed out for going to the bathroom to watch the highlight during a rush

    76人球迷:哇靠,我在上班的时候看到了那个帖子,然后在高峰时去厕所看回放,还被“屌”了一顿。

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    [–]Celtics sevenfoursevensix 316 points 20 hours ago

    That will be a fun cap situation in 3 years

    凯尔特人球迷:76人三年后的薪资结构有意思咯。

    [–]MOMDADIMAFUNNYPERSON 55 points 20 hours ago

    We’ll be where you guys are now I guess

    我觉得到时候我们就会是现在的凯尔特人。

    [–][PHI] Joel Embiid lardbiscuits 212 points 20 hours ago

    Oh wow.

    Better learn to shoot, Ben.

    76人球迷:噢哇。西蒙斯啊,赶紧学会投篮啊。

    [–]StopPicking Ryze 2 points 16 hours ago

    You guys think he will learn to shoot with in 5 years?

    你们觉得他会在五年内学会投篮吗?

    [–]dogeblessUSA 213 points 20 hours ago

    but now that he got paid,he wont even have to learn to shoot

    人家现在都拿了大合同了,甚至都没必要学了。

    [–]76ers banjosbadfurday 199 points 20 hours ago

    oh god, the Wiggins theory

    76人球迷:天呐,维金斯理论

    [–]Wizards makingsomeeggs 39 points 20 hours ago

    He needs to develop a 4 point shot

    奇才球迷:西蒙斯要开发出4分篮

    [–][TOR] Fred VanVleet Smugleaf_Raptors2012 19 points 20 hours ago

    Trae Young can make 4pt shots

    猛龙球迷:吹羊可以打4分

    [–]Warriors CameronPlain 35 points 20 hours ago

    What if Simmons is developing some kind of crazy shot that no one's seen before, like a hook shot from three? Maybe he's way ahead of us.

    勇士球迷:如果西蒙斯开发出某种咱们见所未见的极品投篮呢,比如说三分线外勾手?或许他超前我们很多。

    [–]76ers eljefe56 10 points 20 hours ago

    the running start layup/floater from 3

    76人球迷:还有三分线外的上篮和抛投。

    [–]Kramalicious 18 points 20 hours ago

    Love this move. Guy was an all star last year and in consideration the year before, literally a triple double threat every game, underrated for his defensive abilities and only scratched the surface of what he can on offense.

    Obviously it has to play out the right way but I’d put my money on a guy like that being able to figure it out in this league. People just like to go after the low hanging fruit and act like he’s somehow done developing as a player.

    很喜欢76人这笔操作。这哥们儿上赛季是全明星,之前个赛季呼声也很高,基本算是个场均三分的球员,而且他的防守还被低估了,只是说进攻差点火候。

    要是我我也会在这种球员身上花钱搏一把,虽说这有些不按传统套路出牌。有些人就喜欢去追求那些已经打磨成型的球员,却搞得像西蒙斯已经没法进步了一样。

    [–][LAL] Kobe Bryant antobey 9 points 20 hours ago

    hes really good. dude is only 22 and one of the best in league. totally deserving.

    湖人球迷:他确实很厉害。他才22就已经是联盟顶级了。完全配得上这个价。

    [–]Lakers yenzy 7 points 20 hours ago

    Ben Simmons has potential to be a transcendental PG but only if he actually develops a shot.

    His ceiling is just so much lower without one.

    Hard to say if this was a good move by philly.

    湖人球迷:西蒙斯具备成为一个顶尖控卫的潜力,但是前提是他真能练出投篮。

    没有投篮的话,他的上限就太低了。

    76人这个操作是好是坏还很难说。

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